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  4.        <title>Sanguinololu: Sanguino + Pololus - Rev 0.7 X(</title>
  5.        <description>[b][size=large]Sanguinololu[/size][/b]
  6.  
  7. Wiki page: http://reprap.org/wiki/Sanguinololu - Please check here for the latest and greatest info.
  8.  
  9. Roughly translated: I bleed, pololu.
  10.  
  11. [b]Current revision: 0.7[/b] Updated March 3, 2011
  12. Attached to this post are board and schematic images, or go to http://imgur.com/a/6IjD8
  13.  
  14. Here is a project I&#039;ve been working on. I would like a nice clean board to control my currently un-born Reprap, and due to its cost and simplicity I&#039;ve chosen to use the [url=http://sanguino.cc]Sanguino[/url] Arduino compatible board paired with a set of [url=http://www.pololu.com/catalog/product/1201]Pololu Allegro A4983 Stepper Motor Driver Carrier[/url] boards. In order to keep things tidy, I&#039;ve mushed all this into one board.
  15.  
  16. [b]Update![/b]
  17. The revision 0.6 PCBs have been shipped! Now for their trek across the Pacific.... In order to keep prices cheap, there will be a surplus of these boards. hit me up in #reprap if you want a sample. And to source the parts I&#039;ve created a parts list on http://www.mouser.com/ProjectManager/ProjectDetail.aspx?AccessID=23049dc03a - please note that the 0.6 revision does not have pads for the voltage regulator, and in order to be powered by USB bus, a greenwire must be soldered.
  18.  
  19.  
  20. Oh, here&#039;s a pic of the 0.1 board assembled, the first prototype (they grow up so quickly...):
  21.  
  22. [img]http://i.imgur.com/NZ0se.jpg[/img]
  23. Two more pics at http://imgur.com/a/gq4rt
  24.  
  25. [b]Features:[/b]
  26. [list]
  27. *Small design - board is 100mm x 50mm (4&quot; x 2&quot;), 2 sided, a bunch of vias (DIY routed 1 sided design in the works)
  28.  
  29. *Sanguino clone, Atmel&#039;s ATMEGA644
  30.  
  31. *Up to 4 Pololu (or Pololu compatible) on-board (X,Y,Z,Extruder) (A4983 without voltage regulator)
  32.  
  33. *Supports multiple power configurations:
  34. ---Logic &amp; Motors supplied by ATX power supply (needs molex harddrive connector, and optional 4pin atx connector for additional 12v)
  35. ---Motors supplied by 5mm screw terminal (7v-35v)
  36. ---Logic supplied by USB bus (if connector is installed)
  37. ---Logic supplied by optional on-board voltage regulator (molex harddrive connector cannot be installed at the same time)
  38.  
  39. *Supports multiple communication configurations:
  40. ---FT232RL on-board for USB connectivity
  41. ---USB2TTL header is available for FTDI cable, or BlueSMIRF bluetooth module
  42.  
  43. *Edge connectors for all wire connections, for vertical jumpers or right-angle tidyness, with or without polarizing tab
  44.  
  45. *Silkscreen for connectors on both sides of the board, facilitating bottom cable connections for even more tidyness
  46.  
  47. *Sanguino extra pin header for expansion (6 analog IO and 4 digital IO - two for uart2, and two PWM pins)
  48.  
  49. *All through-hole components (except FTDI chip) for easy DIY soldering
  50.  
  51. *2 thermistor connectors with circuitry
  52.  
  53. *2 N-MOSFETs for extruder/bed, or whatever
  54.  
  55. *Selectable 12v/5v endstop voltage
  56. [/list]
  57.  
  58. Please let me know what you think, or if you have any feature ideas, or see any mistakes, or if you&#039;re interested in contributing.
  59.  
  60.  
  61.  
  62. [b]Revision history:[/b]
  63.  
  64. [B]Rev 0.7[/B]
  65. Added footprints for voltage regulator for those wanting to use laptop power brick, etc. The vreg component footprints are hidden under the ATX power supply for space saving and to prevent both from being in use.
  66.  
  67. Enabled USB bus power for logic side.
  68.  
  69. Connected the 5v pin on the USB2TTL header so that either a: ftdi cable can power the board, or b: The board can power a bluetooth serial module (bluesmirf).
  70.  
  71. [B]Rev 0.6[/B]
  72.  
  73. Made changes suggested regarding putting power pin in the middle of endstop sense connector.
  74.  
  75. Shrunk board to metric specifications for boardhouse - board size now 100mm x 50mm - just a tad smaller than 4&quot;x2&quot;
  76.  
  77. Increased spacing between connectors to facilitate polarized or locking connector types / wire headers
  78.  
  79. Changed orientation of MS1/2/3 jumpers to (hopefully) make it easier to remove / put on, and give more room to the pololu decoup caps
  80.  
  81. Sent design to boardhouse for prototypes
  82.  
  83.  
  84. [B]Rev 0.3[/B]
  85. MS1/2/3 for each motor separated. Unfortunately the best place for this to go is under the pololus, needing you to remove the pololu to change it&#039;s microstepping settings. Oh well, I&#039;m hoping this is a set-it-and-forget-it type of thing.
  86.  
  87. Added optional 4-pin atx 12v connector to support large hotbed or extruder loads, up to 20A. 3A if just using the hdd connector
  88.  
  89. Adjusted schematic to put MOSFETs gates on PWM pins for less software intense temp control.
  90.  
  91. Moved endstop connectors to other side of board.
  92.  
  93. Added 12V power connectors in their place, for always on fan, or whatever. Watch out for current rating. Maybe a couple of fuses is in order....
  94.  
  95. [B]Rev 0.1[/B]
  96. First prototype, first design, first PCB ordered, first assembled, etc. Pics: http://imgur.com/a/gq4rt</description>
  97.        <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,73456#msg-73456</link>
  98.        <lastBuildDate>Wed, 08 May 2024 22:09:28 -0400</lastBuildDate>
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  101.            <guid>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,243320#msg-243320</guid>
  102.            <title>Re: Sanguinololu: Sanguino + Pololus - Rev 0.7 X(</title>
  103.            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,243320#msg-243320</link>
  104.            <description><![CDATA[ Hi all, I am a complete newby I bought my red self assembly kit from Ebay scitechsupplies made it up as per wiki all seems fine, when i plug in to usb the led lights, I installed the FTDI driver but I canot connect to the board with either ardurino 0023 or pronterface, the bootloader is supposed to be pre-installed but my doubts are growing so I tried to burn the bootloader again useing ardurino 0023 with the result of an error message to the tone of cant find atmega1284p. in ardurino my board is set to sanguino with atmega 1284P com port 8 and th burn process errors out as said.<br />
  105. Any suggestions please.]]></description>
  106.            <dc:creator>papakel</dc:creator>
  107.            <category>Sanguino(lolu)</category>
  108.            <pubDate>Sat, 07 Sep 2013 04:56:12 -0400</pubDate>
  109.        </item>
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  111.            <guid>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,171610#msg-171610</guid>
  112.            <title>Re: Sanguinololu: Sanguino + Pololus - Rev 0.7 X(</title>
  113.            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,171610#msg-171610</link>
  114.            <description><![CDATA[ Hi i bougt a "make it red" kit with sanguino 1.3a, atmega 644a, poloulos and nema 17.from xyzprinters last spring and soldered it. but havent got time to assemble my repstrap unitll now. <br />
  115. but i wonder if there are some software kit to download prepared for my stuf? It looks (f,ex in teacup)like mandarin with all too short instructions for peparations and a lot of weird references and uppdate versions that my little bear brain cant sort out.. .<br />
  116. <br />
  117. Please help....]]></description>
  118.            <dc:creator>ESN</dc:creator>
  119.            <category>Sanguino(lolu)</category>
  120.            <pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 11:57:03 -0500</pubDate>
  121.        </item>
  122.        <item>
  123.            <guid>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,93084#msg-93084</guid>
  124.            <title>Re: Sanguinololu: Sanguino + Pololus - Rev 0.7 X(</title>
  125.            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,93084#msg-93084</link>
  126.            <description><![CDATA[ Here is my BoM for Sanguinololu 1.3<b>A</b>  [<a href="https://www.mouser.com/ProjectManager/ProjectDetail.aspx?AccessID=362F4749E3" target="_blank"  rel="nofollow">www.mouser.com</a>]<br />
  127. <br />
  128. The only thing you will need to edit is the 10 pin male header. I have it set to 16 instead of 8.  I have been working on completing a Dual DigiKey and Mouser BoM Spreadsheet. I just need to finalize some things and I will add it to the Wiki. I also think Joem_ will have some of the PCBs and Kits back in stock very soon.]]></description>
  129.            <dc:creator>SCphotog</dc:creator>
  130.            <category>Sanguino(lolu)</category>
  131.            <pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 03:44:00 -0400</pubDate>
  132.        </item>
  133.        <item>
  134.            <guid>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,93017#msg-93017</guid>
  135.            <title>Re: Sanguinololu: Sanguino + Pololus - Rev 0.7 X(</title>
  136.            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,93017#msg-93017</link>
  137.            <description><![CDATA[ I actually got the board on the first run, I didn't order the parts from mouser because I was going to check against digikey about price differences, but now that mouser project BOM is 404.]]></description>
  138.            <dc:creator>marnargulus</dc:creator>
  139.            <category>Sanguino(lolu)</category>
  140.            <pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2011 11:40:10 -0400</pubDate>
  141.        </item>
  142.        <item>
  143.            <guid>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,93012#msg-93012</guid>
  144.            <title>Re: Sanguinololu: Sanguino + Pololus - Rev 0.7 X(</title>
  145.            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,93012#msg-93012</link>
  146.            <description><![CDATA[ Before you start buying components, is the PCB still available?  It's "sold out" on both eMAKERshop and XYZ Printers.<br />
  147. <br />
  148. If you can't find it, <a href="http://reprap.org/wiki/Generation_7_Electronics" target="_blank"  rel="nofollow">Gen7</a> is a similar design.]]></description>
  149.            <dc:creator>rebecca.palmer</dc:creator>
  150.            <category>Sanguino(lolu)</category>
  151.            <pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2011 11:06:59 -0400</pubDate>
  152.        </item>
  153.        <item>
  154.            <guid>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,93001#msg-93001</guid>
  155.            <title>Re: Sanguinololu: Sanguino + Pololus - Rev 0.7 X(</title>
  156.            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,93001#msg-93001</link>
  157.            <description><![CDATA[ Does anyone have their BOM saved for mouser or digikey?  The project that had been saved is no longer available, and I was hoping to save a few hours of searching.]]></description>
  158.            <dc:creator>marnargulus</dc:creator>
  159.            <category>Sanguino(lolu)</category>
  160.            <pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2011 08:50:42 -0400</pubDate>
  161.        </item>
  162.        <item>
  163.            <guid>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,91861#msg-91861</guid>
  164.            <title>Re: Sanguinololu: Sanguino + Pololus - Rev 0.7 X(</title>
  165.            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,91861#msg-91861</link>
  166.            <description><![CDATA[ @Cynar<br />
  167. <br />
  168. I gave up, temporarily, with the RS BOM. It was taking too much time while I was away from home on a 9" netbook screen. Instead, I ordered double quantities from Mouser to qualify for free shipping. I'd be happy to sell you the other half of my order at cost (£25.39)+ nominal P&amp;P for UK registered delivery. (I bought a v1.1 board from UK ebay with the FT232RL FTDI IC already soldered, hence-why that chip is not included.) Here's what I have to sell you: <a href="http://www.mouser.com:80/ProjectManager/ProjectDetail.aspx?AccessID=0d45fceb98" target="_blank"  rel="nofollow">Sanguino Project Complete v1.1 - less FTDI - HM</a> PM me if interested.<br />
  169. <br />
  170. I'd still be interested in contributing a RS and/or Farnell BOM, but right now I just want to get my first Prusa Mendel up and running.<br />
  171. <br />
  172. Cheers, Hamish]]></description>
  173.            <dc:creator>hairykiwi</dc:creator>
  174.            <category>Sanguino(lolu)</category>
  175.            <pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:50:37 -0400</pubDate>
  176.        </item>
  177.        <item>
  178.            <guid>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,91758#msg-91758</guid>
  179.            <title>Re: Sanguinololu: Sanguino + Pololus - Rev 0.7 X(</title>
  180.            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,91758#msg-91758</link>
  181.            <description><![CDATA[ @hairykiwi<br />
  182. <br />
  183. If you could post the RS parts list it would be highly useful. I'm in the uk as well and was just about to start sourcing the parts :)]]></description>
  184.            <dc:creator>Cynar</dc:creator>
  185.            <category>Sanguino(lolu)</category>
  186.            <pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 14:16:05 -0400</pubDate>
  187.        </item>
  188.        <item>
  189.            <guid>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,90408#msg-90408</guid>
  190.            <title>Re: Sanguinololu: Sanguino + Pololus - Rev 0.7 X(</title>
  191.            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,90408#msg-90408</link>
  192.            <description><![CDATA[ Hi Joe,<br />
  193. <br />
  194. Your listing on eMaker for v1.2 boards has disappeared. Are you temporarily out of stock?<br />
  195. <br />
  196. I'm in the process of creating a RS Parts List (Mouser.com is great, but has a min order value of £50 for free shipping to the UK) and noticed a few discrepancies comparing:<br />
  197. <a href="http://www.mouser.com/ProjectManager/ProjectDetail.aspx?AccessID=a6555e5407" target="_blank"  rel="nofollow">http://www.mouser.com/ProjectManager/ProjectDetail.aspx?AccessID=a6555e5407</a><br />
  198. with:<br />
  199. <a href="https://github.com/mosfet/Sanguinololu/blob/master/rev1.1/parts.txt" target="_blank"  rel="nofollow">https://github.com/mosfet/Sanguinololu/blob/master/rev1.1/parts.txt</a> -<br />
  200. a few things appear to be mis-labeled in the Mouser 'Customer Part No.' field:<br />
  201. <br />
  202. Line 1 Mouser: Resistor 1.5K<br />
  203. should read: R1 Resistor 1.5K<br />
  204. <br />
  205. Line 3 Mouser: R1 Resistor 1K<br />
  206. should read R7,8 Resistor 1K<br />
  207. <br />
  208. Line 5 Mouser: R11 Resistor 10K<br />
  209. should read: R6,11 10K<br />
  210. <br />
  211. Minor details, but a bit confusing for those of us just starting out.]]></description>
  212.            <dc:creator>hairykiwi</dc:creator>
  213.            <category>Sanguino(lolu)</category>
  214.            <pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 08:47:08 -0400</pubDate>
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  217.            <guid>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,85524#msg-85524</guid>
  218.            <title>Re: Sanguinololu: Sanguino + Pololus - Rev 0.7 X(</title>
  219.            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,85524#msg-85524</link>
  220.            <description><![CDATA[ I designed a coaster for Sanguinololu V1.0<br />
  221. <br />
  222. Its available @ [<a href="http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:8990" target="_blank"  rel="nofollow">www.thingiverse.com</a>]<br />
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  344.            <dc:creator>Sublime</dc:creator>
  345.            <category>Sanguino(lolu)</category>
  346.            <pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2011 14:10:50 -0400</pubDate>
  347.        </item>
  348.        <item>
  349.            <guid>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,82996#msg-82996</guid>
  350.            <title>Re: Sanguinololu: Sanguino + Pololus - Rev 0.7 X(</title>
  351.            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,82996#msg-82996</link>
  352.            <description><![CDATA[ I presume that for the full kit (sans Pololus), the $15 for shipping would be enough to get it down to Auckland, New Zealand?]]></description>
  353.            <dc:creator>GreenLead</dc:creator>
  354.            <category>Sanguino(lolu)</category>
  355.            <pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2011 19:05:50 -0400</pubDate>
  356.        </item>
  357.        <item>
  358.            <guid>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,82696#msg-82696</guid>
  359.            <title>Re: Sanguinololu: Sanguino + Pololus - Rev 0.7 X(</title>
  360.            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,82696#msg-82696</link>
  361.            <description><![CDATA[ Also, the boards are available for worldwide distribution on [<a href="http://www.emakershop.com/browse.php?catid=3" target="_blank"  rel="nofollow">www.emakershop.com</a>] in both a bare PCB and complete w/ components.]]></description>
  362.            <dc:creator>joe m</dc:creator>
  363.            <category>Sanguino(lolu)</category>
  364.            <pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 18:03:50 -0400</pubDate>
  365.        </item>
  366.        <item>
  367.            <guid>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,82683#msg-82683</guid>
  368.            <title>Re: Sanguinololu: Sanguino + Pololus - Rev 0.7 X(</title>
  369.            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,82683#msg-82683</link>
  370.            <description><![CDATA[ We have a large order of Sanguinololu 1.1 boards for sale. $11 includes shipping in the US. Paypal with shipping address to <a href="mailto:&#106;&#111;&#101;&#109;&#111;&#115;&#102;&#101;&#116;&#64;&#103;&#109;&#97;&#105;&#108;&#46;&#99;&#111;&#109;">&#106;&#111;&#101;&#109;&#111;&#115;&#102;&#101;&#116;&#64;&#103;&#109;&#97;&#105;&#108;&#46;&#99;&#111;&#109;</a>]]></description>
  371.            <dc:creator>joe m</dc:creator>
  372.            <category>Sanguino(lolu)</category>
  373.            <pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 16:09:44 -0400</pubDate>
  374.        </item>
  375.        <item>
  376.            <guid>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,80427#msg-80427</guid>
  377.            <title>Re: Sanguinololu: Sanguino + Pololus - Rev 0.7 X(</title>
  378.            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,80427#msg-80427</link>
  379.            <description><![CDATA[ Luke, this should work with any firmware in which you can adjust the pin assignments, and which works with axis home switches instead of dual endstops.<br />
  380. <br />
  381. A dedicated firmware is in the works, keep an eye on the wiki for more info.]]></description>
  382.            <dc:creator>joe m</dc:creator>
  383.            <category>Sanguino(lolu)</category>
  384.            <pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 23:27:43 -0400</pubDate>
  385.        </item>
  386.        <item>
  387.            <guid>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,80143#msg-80143</guid>
  388.            <title>Re: Sanguinololu: Sanguino + Pololus - Rev 0.7 X(</title>
  389.            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,80143#msg-80143</link>
  390.            <description><![CDATA[ joe<br />
  391. The Sanguinololu is a wonderful board!  Thanks!<br />
  392. <br />
  393. Do you have a recommendation for firmware to use?  Or even better a firmware that you've already configured for the Sanguinololu?<br />
  394. <br />
  395. Thanks again!<br />
  396. Luke]]></description>
  397.            <dc:creator>LUWE</dc:creator>
  398.            <category>Sanguino(lolu)</category>
  399.            <pubDate>Sun, 10 Apr 2011 04:24:22 -0400</pubDate>
  400.        </item>
  401.        <item>
  402.            <guid>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,79557#msg-79557</guid>
  403.            <title>Re: Sanguinololu: Sanguino + Pololus - Rev 0.7 X(</title>
  404.            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,79557#msg-79557</link>
  405.            <description><![CDATA[ If you look for a set of electronics designed for DIY, you might want to have a look at <a href="http://reprap.org/wiki/Generation_7_Electronics" target="_blank"  rel="nofollow">Gen7</a>.]]></description>
  406.            <dc:creator>Traumflug</dc:creator>
  407.            <category>Sanguino(lolu)</category>
  408.            <pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 04:04:42 -0400</pubDate>
  409.        </item>
  410.        <item>
  411.            <guid>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,79520#msg-79520</guid>
  412.            <title>Re: Sanguinololu: Sanguino + Pololus - Rev 0.7 X(</title>
  413.            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,79520#msg-79520</link>
  414.            <description><![CDATA[ For easy making PCB,  Who help One Side hole design?<br />
  415. Double side is not easy at home.]]></description>
  416.            <dc:creator>populous</dc:creator>
  417.            <category>Sanguino(lolu)</category>
  418.            <pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 20:22:35 -0400</pubDate>
  419.        </item>
  420.        <item>
  421.            <guid>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,79490#msg-79490</guid>
  422.            <title>Re: Sanguinololu: Sanguino + Pololus - Rev 0.7 X(</title>
  423.            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,79490#msg-79490</link>
  424.            <description><![CDATA[ wow, sorry of course you are right, I don't know where my head is today.]]></description>
  425.            <dc:creator>fireraisr</dc:creator>
  426.            <category>Sanguino(lolu)</category>
  427.            <pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 15:40:04 -0400</pubDate>
  428.        </item>
  429.        <item>
  430.            <guid>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,79488#msg-79488</guid>
  431.            <title>Re: Sanguinololu: Sanguino + Pololus - Rev 0.7 X(</title>
  432.            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,79488#msg-79488</link>
  433.            <description><![CDATA[ When I change the Pololu jumpers, I also change the firmware steps per mm to be consistent. If I didn't do that, the x or y axis will not move 200 mm when issued the command G1 X200 F6000 or G1 Y200 F6000. As I wrote, the only difference is that at 1/16 steps, it takes about twice as long to get there even though I gave the same feed rate. Increasing F further has no effect at 1/16 steps.]]></description>
  434.            <dc:creator>brnrd</dc:creator>
  435.            <category>Sanguino(lolu)</category>
  436.            <pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 15:27:45 -0400</pubDate>
  437.        </item>
  438.        <item>
  439.            <guid>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,79482#msg-79482</guid>
  440.            <title>Re: Sanguinololu: Sanguino + Pololus - Rev 0.7 X(</title>
  441.            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,79482#msg-79482</link>
  442.            <description><![CDATA[ No, you are correct. When you go from 1/8 stepping to 1/16 stepping without changing any settings it would take twice as long. You are essentially doubling the steps per mm when you do that so using the same settings for both configurations will indeed cause the time difference. This sounds like a software issue. Try changing F6000 to F12000 and you should see the problem disappear if the motors can keep up. I don't have any experience with MB so I can't confirm whether it will work or where you should fix your settings if it does.]]></description>
  443.            <dc:creator>fireraisr</dc:creator>
  444.            <category>Sanguino(lolu)</category>
  445.            <pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 14:46:14 -0400</pubDate>
  446.        </item>
  447.        <item>
  448.            <guid>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,79454#msg-79454</guid>
  449.            <title>Re: Sanguinololu: Sanguino + Pololus - Rev 0.7 X(</title>
  450.            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,79454#msg-79454</link>
  451.            <description><![CDATA[ If that was the case, then the axis wouldn't go the exact distance since it would be missing steps. When I issue a G1 X200 F6000 command from the home position, it goes all the way to the end regardless of the speed. With 1/8 steps, it takes 2 seconds with the stop watch. With 1/16 steps, it takes a little less than 4 seconds. The only way to explain this is that the MB is not sending the step pulses fast enough. At 1/16 steps, firmware is set to 80.376 steps/mm. So, this works out to 80.376steps/mm X 52 mm/s = 4180 steps/s as the maximum for the MB/firmware. Is this a firmware or microcontroller issue?]]></description>
  452.            <dc:creator>brnrd</dc:creator>
  453.            <category>Sanguino(lolu)</category>
  454.            <pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 11:41:13 -0400</pubDate>
  455.        </item>
  456.        <item>
  457.            <guid>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,79451#msg-79451</guid>
  458.            <title>Re: Sanguinololu: Sanguino + Pololus - Rev 0.7 X(</title>
  459.            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,79451#msg-79451</link>
  460.            <description><![CDATA[ It's a limitation of the motors you are using. Your drivers can provide incredibly fast signals, so fast that the motors can't keep up. That's why if you used the default reprap firmware and only changed pin assignments and tried to run the z axis it would ramp up so fast that the motors would stall. This had me confused when I first started too.]]></description>
  461.            <dc:creator>fireraisr</dc:creator>
  462.            <category>Sanguino(lolu)</category>
  463.            <pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 11:30:55 -0400</pubDate>
  464.        </item>
  465.        <item>
  466.            <guid>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,79439#msg-79439</guid>
  467.            <title>Re: Sanguinololu: Sanguino + Pololus - Rev 0.7 X(</title>
  468.            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,79439#msg-79439</link>
  469.            <description><![CDATA[ Hmm. So, the difference between them are mainly the number of IO lines and packaging? I don't understand why when I measured the x and y speed on my Mendel (Techzone Gen3 remix, reprap firmware 20100719, Pololu) at 16x, I can't get past 52 mm/s. I have to run the Pololu's at 1/8 or larger steps to get 100 mm/s on x and y.]]></description>
  470.            <dc:creator>brnrd</dc:creator>
  471.            <category>Sanguino(lolu)</category>
  472.            <pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 08:30:20 -0400</pubDate>
  473.        </item>
  474.        <item>
  475.            <guid>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,79424#msg-79424</guid>
  476.            <title>Re: Sanguinololu: Sanguino + Pololus - Rev 0.7 X(</title>
  477.            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,79424#msg-79424</link>
  478.            <description><![CDATA[ Almost all electronics use an ATmega, and almost all ATmegas run at 16MHz (Gen7 being the exemption), so it's well proven an ATmega is capable of microstepping.]]></description>
  479.            <dc:creator>Traumflug</dc:creator>
  480.            <category>Sanguino(lolu)</category>
  481.            <pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 05:13:58 -0400</pubDate>
  482.        </item>
  483.        <item>
  484.            <guid>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,79403#msg-79403</guid>
  485.            <title>Re: Sanguinololu: Sanguino + Pololu Allegro Stepper Motor Driver</title>
  486.            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,79403#msg-79403</link>
  487.            <description><![CDATA[ I'm very interested in how well the ATMega644 performs. I've been using Pololu's with the Techzone Gen 3 remix motherboard and it seems that it's not fast enough for microstepping. I'm not really sure where the bottleneck is but it seems that the processor can't respond to the commands fast enough while stepping the motors at 8x the usual speed.]]></description>
  488.            <dc:creator>brnrd</dc:creator>
  489.            <category>Sanguino(lolu)</category>
  490.            <pubDate>Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:38:54 -0400</pubDate>
  491.        </item>
  492.        <item>
  493.            <guid>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,79396#msg-79396</guid>
  494.            <title>Re: Sanguinololu: Sanguino + Pololu Allegro Stepper Motor Driver</title>
  495.            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,79396#msg-79396</link>
  496.            <description><![CDATA[ This is some impressive work Joe!<br />
  497. <br />
  498. How do we get a board?]]></description>
  499.            <dc:creator>LUWE</dc:creator>
  500.            <category>Sanguino(lolu)</category>
  501.            <pubDate>Sun, 03 Apr 2011 21:34:47 -0400</pubDate>
  502.        </item>
  503.        <item>
  504.            <guid>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,78282#msg-78282</guid>
  505.            <title>Re: Sanguinololu: Sanguino + Pololu Allegro Stepper Motor Driver</title>
  506.            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,78282#msg-78282</link>
  507.            <description><![CDATA[ <a href="http://www.thebackshed.com/cnc/RouterA2.asp" target="_blank"  rel="nofollow">http://www.thebackshed.com/cnc/RouterA2.asp</a>]]></description>
  508.            <dc:creator>edoctoor</dc:creator>
  509.            <category>Sanguino(lolu)</category>
  510.            <pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2011 20:24:06 -0400</pubDate>
  511.        </item>
  512.        <item>
  513.            <guid>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,77309#msg-77309</guid>
  514.            <title>Re: Sanguinololu: Sanguino + Pololu Allegro Stepper Motor Driver</title>
  515.            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,77309#msg-77309</link>
  516.            <description><![CDATA[ jgilmore Wrote:<br />
  517. <br />
  518. &gt; <br />
  519. &gt; What are the chances that the power supply that I<br />
  520. &gt; already have from the dead computer sitting in the<br />
  521. &gt; corner will handle it?<br />
  522. &gt; <br />
  523. &gt; I'm under the impression that a mendel is far more<br />
  524. &gt; likely to be built by the kind of person who's<br />
  525. &gt; likely to already have an ATX power supply sitting<br />
  526. &gt; around.<br />
  527. <br />
  528. OK. You caught me. I actually have an old Dell lying around with a bad MB. :) It's about 6-7 yrs old and it wasn't really a high end even when it was bought and it has 12V at 16 A.]]></description>
  529.            <dc:creator>brnrd</dc:creator>
  530.            <category>Sanguino(lolu)</category>
  531.            <pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 21:55:11 -0400</pubDate>
  532.        </item>
  533.        <item>
  534.            <guid>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,77061#msg-77061</guid>
  535.            <title>Re: Sanguinololu: Sanguino + Pololu Allegro Stepper Motor Driver</title>
  536.            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,77061#msg-77061</link>
  537.            <description><![CDATA[ brnrd Wrote:<br />
  538. -------------------------------------------------------<br />
  539. &gt; jgilmore Wrote:<br />
  540. &gt; --------------------------------------------------<br />
  541. &gt; -----<br />
  542. &gt; &gt; Concern about the current-carrying capacity of<br />
  543. &gt; the<br />
  544. &gt; &gt; #18 wires is important. Let's not catch things<br />
  545. &gt; on<br />
  546. &gt; &gt; fire!<br />
  547. &gt; &gt; <br />
  548. &gt; &gt; But that wasn't what I was talking about. I<br />
  549. &gt; meant<br />
  550. &gt; &gt; that a 200W PC power supply typically can't<br />
  551. &gt; &gt; produce even 100W on the +12V rail. It's mostly<br />
  552. &gt; &gt; available on the 5V rail.<br />
  553. &gt; &gt; <br />
  554. &gt; &gt; There *are* supplies that will handle it, of<br />
  555. &gt; &gt; course. But I'm under the impression that<br />
  556. &gt; they're<br />
  557. &gt; &gt; the exception rather than the rule.<br />
  558. &gt; <br />
  559. &gt; Power on the 12V rail is not really a big deal<br />
  560. &gt; nowadays. You can buy ATX power supply with 20<br />
  561. &gt; Amps or more on the +12V rail for around $20 US.<br />
  562. &gt; Take a look in Newegg for example. I picked one up<br />
  563. &gt; at a local Microcenter with 2 x 20A 12V rails for<br />
  564. &gt; a little over $30.<br />
  565. <br />
  566. What are the chances that the power supply that I already have from the dead computer sitting in the corner will handle it?<br />
  567. <br />
  568. I'm under the impression that a mendel is far more likely to be built by the kind of person who's likely to already have an ATX power supply sitting around.]]></description>
  569.            <dc:creator>jgilmore</dc:creator>
  570.            <category>Sanguino(lolu)</category>
  571.            <pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 08:52:57 -0400</pubDate>
  572.        </item>
  573.        <item>
  574.            <guid>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,76930#msg-76930</guid>
  575.            <title>Re: Sanguinololu: Sanguino + Pololu Allegro Stepper Motor Driver</title>
  576.            <link>https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?158,73456,76930#msg-76930</link>
  577.            <description><![CDATA[ jgilmore Wrote:<br />
  578. -------------------------------------------------------<br />
  579. &gt; Concern about the current-carrying capacity of the<br />
  580. &gt; #18 wires is important. Let's not catch things on<br />
  581. &gt; fire!<br />
  582. &gt; <br />
  583. &gt; But that wasn't what I was talking about. I meant<br />
  584. &gt; that a 200W PC power supply typically can't<br />
  585. &gt; produce even 100W on the +12V rail. It's mostly<br />
  586. &gt; available on the 5V rail.<br />
  587. &gt; <br />
  588. &gt; There *are* supplies that will handle it, of<br />
  589. &gt; course. But I'm under the impression that they're<br />
  590. &gt; the exception rather than the rule.<br />
  591. <br />
  592. Power on the 12V rail is not really a big deal nowadays. You can buy ATX power supply with 20 Amps or more on the +12V rail for around $20 US. Take a look in Newegg for example. I picked one up at a local Microcenter with 2 x 20A 12V rails for a little over $30.]]></description>
  593.            <dc:creator>brnrd</dc:creator>
  594.            <category>Sanguino(lolu)</category>
  595.            <pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 00:42:37 -0400</pubDate>
  596.        </item>
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http://www.feedvalidator.org/check.cgi?url=http%3A//forums.reprap.org/feed.php%3F158%2C73456%2Creplies%3D1%2Ctype%3Drss

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