It looks like this is a web page, not a feed. I looked for a feed associated with this page, but couldn't find one. Please enter the address of your feed to validate.

Source: https://mykw1x.mit-edu.top/post/1547802936

  1. <!doctype html>
  2. <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en" prefix="og: http://ogp.me/ns#">
  3.  
  4.  <head>
  5.    <meta charset="utf-8">
  6.    <meta name="applicable-device" content="pc,mobile">
  7.    <meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1">
  8.    <title>Microeconomic Simulations of Player Choices in Virtual Economies #534813856410 (2025-02-03)</title>
  9.    <link rel="canonical" href="https://mykw1x.mit-edu.top/post/1547802936">
  10.    <link rel="stylesheet" href="https://fonts.googleapis.com/css2?family=Poppins:wght@400;700&display=swap">
  11.    <link rel="stylesheet" href="https://x.mit-edu.top/static/css/style.css">
  12.    <script src="https://x.mit-edu.top/static/js/lazysizes.min.js" async></script>
  13.    <link rel="shortcut icon" href="/favicon.ico">
  14.    <!-- Open Graph Metadata -->
  15.    <meta property="og:type" content="article" />
  16.    <meta property="og:title" content="Microeconomic Simulations of Player Choices in Virtual Economies" />
  17.    <meta property="og:description" content="Microeconomic Simulations of Player Choices in Virtual Economies #534813856410 (2025-02-03)" />
  18.    <meta property="og:url" content="https://mykw1x.mit-edu.top/post/1547802936" />
  19.    <meta property="og:site_name" content="mit-edu.top" />
  20.    <meta property="og:image" content="https://x.mit-edu.top/static/images/post/12.jpg" />
  21.    <meta property="og:article:published_time" content="2025-02-03T13:54:15Z" />
  22.    <meta property="og:article:author" content="Dr. Benjamin Powell" />
  23.    <meta property="og:article:section" content="mit-edu.top" />
  24.    <meta property="og:article:tag" content="Games, Mobile Games, Video Games" />
  25.    <!-- Schema.org -->
  26.    <script type="application/ld+json">{
  27.            "@context": "https://schema.org",
  28.            "@type": "ScholarlyArticle",
  29.            "headline": "Microeconomic Simulations of Player Choices in Virtual Economies #534813856410 (2025-02-03)",
  30.            "author": {
  31.                "@type": "Person",
  32.                "name": "Dr. Benjamin Powell",
  33.                "affiliation": {
  34.                    "@type": "Organization",
  35.                    "name": "mit-edu.top"
  36.                },
  37.                "url": "https://mykw1x.mit-edu.top/post/1547802936"
  38.            },
  39.            "datePublished": "2025-02-03T13:54:15Z",
  40.            "image": "https://x.mit-edu.top/static/images/post/12.jpg",
  41.            "journal": {
  42.                "@type": "Periodical",
  43.                "name": "mit-edu.top",
  44.                "issn": "10.1069/534813856410"
  45.            },
  46.            "publisher": {
  47.                "@type": "Organization",
  48.                "name": "mit-edu.top",
  49.                "url": "https://mykw1x.mit-edu.top"
  50.            },
  51.            "doi": "534813856410",
  52.            "abstract": "Microeconomic Simulations of Player Choices in Virtual Economies #534813856410 (2025-02-03)",
  53.            "citation": {
  54.                "@type": "CreativeWork",
  55.                "name": "Microeconomic Simulations of Player Choices in Virtual Economies",
  56.                "author": "Dr. Benjamin Powell",
  57.                "datePublished": "2025-02-03T13:54:15Z",
  58.                "url": "https://mykw1x.mit-edu.top/post/1547802936"
  59.            }
  60.        }
  61.    </script>
  62. </head>
  63.  
  64. <body>
  65.    <div class="site-mobile-menu site-navbar-target">
  66.        <div class="site-mobile-menu-header">
  67.            <div class="site-mobile-menu-close">
  68.                <span class="icofont-close js-menu-toggle"></span>
  69.            </div>
  70.        </div>
  71.        <div class="site-mobile-menu-body"></div>
  72.    </div>
  73.    <nav class="site-nav">
  74.        <div class="container">
  75.            <div class="site-navigation">
  76.                <div class="row">
  77.                    <div class="col-md-6 text-center order-1 order-md-2 mb-3 mb-md-0">
  78.                        <a href="https://mykw1x.mit-edu.top" class="logo m-0 text-uppercase">mit-edu.top</a>
  79.                    </div>
  80.                    <div class="col-md-3 order-3 order-md-1">
  81.                    </div>
  82.                </div>
  83.            </div>
  84.        </div>
  85.    </nav>
  86.    <div class="section post-section pt-5">
  87.        <div class="container">
  88.            <div class="row justify-content-center">
  89.                <div class="col-lg-8">
  90.                    <div class="text-center">
  91.                        <img src="https://x.mit-edu.top/static/images/user/3.jpg" alt="Microeconomic Simulations of Player Choices in Virtual Economies" title="Microeconomic Simulations of Player Choices in Virtual Economies" class="author-pic img-fluid rounded-circle mx-auto">
  92.                    </div>
  93.                    <span class="d-block text-center">Benjamin Powell</span>
  94.                    <span class="date d-block text-center small text-uppercase text-black-50 mb-5">2025-02-03</span>
  95.                    <h2 class="heading text-center">Microeconomic Simulations of Player Choices in Virtual Economies</h2>
  96.                    <p class="lead mb-4 text-center">Thanks to Benjamin Powell for contributing the article "Microeconomic Simulations of Player Choices in Virtual Economies".
  97.                    </p>
  98.                    <img src="https://x.mit-edu.top/static/images/post/12.jpg" alt="Microeconomic Simulations of Player Choices in Virtual Economies" title="Microeconomic Simulations of Player Choices in Virtual Economies" class="img-fluid rounded mb-4 lazyload">
  99.                    <p>This study explores the role of artificial intelligence (AI) and procedural content generation (PCG) in mobile game development, focusing on how these technologies can create dynamic and ever-changing game environments. The paper examines how AI-powered systems can generate game content such as levels, characters, items, and quests in response to player actions, creating highly personalized and unique experiences for each player. Drawing on procedural generation theories, machine learning, and user experience design, the research investigates the benefits and challenges of using AI in game development, including issues related to content coherence, complexity, and player satisfaction. The study also discusses the future potential of AI-driven content creation in shaping the next generation of mobile games.</p>
  100. <p>This research explores the intersection of mobile gaming and behavioral economics, focusing on how in-game purchases influence player decision-making. The study analyzes common behavioral biases, such as the “anchoring effect” and “loss aversion,” that developers exploit to encourage spending. It provides insights into how these economic principles affect the design of monetization strategies and the ethical considerations involved in manipulating player behavior.</p>
  101. <p>The rise of e-sports has elevated gaming to a competitive arena, where skill, strategy, and teamwork converge to create spectacles that rival traditional sports. From epic tournaments with massive prize pools to professional leagues with dedicated fan bases, e-sports has become a global phenomenon, showcasing the talent and dedication of gamers worldwide. The adrenaline-fueled battles and nail-biting finishes not only entertain but also inspire a new generation of aspiring gamers and professional athletes.</p>
  102. <p>This study applies social network analysis (SNA) to investigate the role of social influence and network dynamics in mobile gaming communities. It examines how social relationships, information flow, and peer-to-peer interactions within these communities shape player behavior, preferences, and engagement patterns. The research builds upon social learning theory and network theory to model the spread of gaming behaviors, including game adoption, in-game purchases, and the sharing of strategies and achievements. The study also explores how mobile games leverage social influence mechanisms, such as multiplayer collaboration and social rewards, to enhance player retention and lifetime value.</p>
  103. <p>This research explores the role of reward systems and progression mechanics in mobile games and their impact on long-term player retention. The study examines how rewards such as achievements, virtual goods, and experience points are designed to keep players engaged over extended periods, addressing the challenges of player churn. Drawing on theories of motivation, reinforcement schedules, and behavioral conditioning, the paper investigates how different reward structures, such as intermittent reinforcement and variable rewards, influence player behavior and retention rates. The research also considers how developers can balance reward-driven engagement with the need for game content variety and novelty to sustain player interest.</p>
  104.  
  105.                    <p>
  106.                    <a href="/redirect/?url=https://mykw1x.mit-edu.top/post/1547802936" target="_blank" class="custom-link">Link</a>
  107.                    </p>
  108.                    <p><a href="https://www.linegames.org/" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  109. <a href="https://www.iliiili.com/" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  110. <a href="https://www.digwow.net/" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  111. <a href="https://www.free-giftcodes.com/" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  112. <a href="https://www.gifthub.com.ru/" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  113. <a href="https://578965045932-edu.iliiili.com/" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  114. <a href="https://379946872693-edu.digwow.net/" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  115. <a href="https://211384542348-edu.free-giftcodes.com/" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  116. <a href="https://942546773668-edu.gifthub.com.ru/" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  117. <a href="https://256525846085-gov.iliiili.com/" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  118. <a href="https://449674569823-gov.digwow.net/" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  119. <a href="https://490857682244-gov.free-giftcodes.com/" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  120. <a href="https://829428072940-gov.gifthub.com.ru/" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  121. <a href="https://307289628604-gov-edu.iliiili.com/" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  122. <a href="https://472607189132-gov-edu.digwow.net/" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  123. <a href="https://030234274003-gov-edu.free-giftcodes.com/" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  124. <a href="https://965736274544-gov-edu.gifthub.com.ru/" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  125. <a href="https://253276470403-edu.iliiili.com/?url=https://mykw1x.mit-edu.top/post/1547802936" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  126. <a href="https://930431727300-edu.digwow.net/?url=https://mykw1x.mit-edu.top/post/1547802936" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  127. <a href="https://928472808126-edu.free-giftcodes.com/?url=https://mykw1x.mit-edu.top/post/1547802936" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  128. <a href="https://863813106259-edu.gifthub.com.ru/?url=https://mykw1x.mit-edu.top/post/1547802936" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  129. <a href="https://322162265003-gov.iliiili.com/?url=https://mykw1x.mit-edu.top/post/1547802936" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  130. <a href="https://383106782164-gov.digwow.net/?url=https://mykw1x.mit-edu.top/post/1547802936" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  131. <a href="https://585100143469-gov.free-giftcodes.com/?url=https://mykw1x.mit-edu.top/post/1547802936" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  132. <a href="https://785295624944-gov.gifthub.com.ru/?url=https://mykw1x.mit-edu.top/post/1547802936" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  133. <a href="https://link.naver.com/bridge?512839387808&amp;url=https://mykw1x.mit-edu.top/post/1547802936" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  134. <a href="https://link.naver.com/bridge?913369237856&amp;url=https://naver913369237856-edu.digwow.net" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  135. <a href="https://link.naver.com/bridge?328813274568&amp;url=https://naver328813274568-edu.iliiili.com" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  136. <a href="https://link.naver.com/bridge?406296188414&amp;url=https://naver406296188414-edu.1717173.xyz" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  137. <a href="https://link.naver.com/bridge?447123866758&amp;url=https://naver447123866758-edu.gifthub.com.ru" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  138. <a href="https://link.naver.com/bridge?076532383902&amp;url=https://naver076532383902-gov.digwow.net" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  139. <a href="https://link.naver.com/bridge?621463907720&amp;url=https://naver621463907720-gov.iliiili.com" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  140. <a href="https://link.naver.com/bridge?117782590143&amp;url=https://naver117782590143-gov.1717173.xyz" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  141. <a href="https://link.naver.com/bridge?481772934181&amp;url=https://naver481772934181-gov.gifthub.com.ru" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  142. <a href="https://link.naver.com/bridge?472244356025&amp;url=https://naver472244356025-gov-edu.digwow.net" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  143. <a href="https://link.naver.com/bridge?374389737805&amp;url=https://naver374389737805-gov-edu.iliiili.com" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  144. <a href="https://link.naver.com/bridge?008417664889&amp;url=https://naver008417664889-gov-edu.1717173.xyz" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  145. <a href="https://link.naver.com/bridge?324927464803&amp;url=https://naver324927464803-gov-edu.gifthub.com.ru" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  146. <a href="https://blog-777557068910.gifthub.news/" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  147. <a href="https://blog-676155087480.jp-edu.sbs/" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  148. <a href="https://blog-226716193849.kr-edu.sbs/" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  149. <a href="https://blog-545447404010.krlinkedin.sbs/" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  150. <a href="https://blog-529267289961.mit-edu.sbs/" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  151. <a href="https://blog-570955800454.mit-edu.buzz/" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  152. <a href="https://blog-295696758675.mit-edu.tech/" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  153. <a href="https://blog-404490558553.mit-edu.site/" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  154. <a href="https://blog-144199518087.mit-edu.top/" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  155. <a href="https://blog-752620261701.usa-gov.top/" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  156. <a href="https://research-857612936345.mit-edu.pp.ua/?url=https://mykw1x.mit-edu.top/post/1547802936" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  157. <a href="https://research-206104880143.harvard-edu.pp.ua/?url=https://mykw1x.mit-edu.top/post/1547802936" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  158. <a href="https://research-279340435197.stanford-edu.pp.ua/?url=https://mykw1x.mit-edu.top/post/1547802936" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  159. <a href="https://research-490025555276.cambridge-edu.pp.ua/?url=https://mykw1x.mit-edu.top/post/1547802936" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  160. <a href="https://research-754779096031.berkeley-edu.pp.ua/?url=https://mykw1x.mit-edu.top/post/1547802936" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  161. <a href="https://research-084694433546.oxford-edu.pp.ua/?url=https://mykw1x.mit-edu.top/post/1547802936" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  162. <a href="https://research-002529295672-edu.wwv.pp.ua/?url=https://mykw1x.mit-edu.top/post/1547802936" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  163. <a href="https://research-582295493963-edu.sean.pp.ua/?url=https://mykw1x.mit-edu.top/post/1547802936" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  164. <a href="https://research-317761471624-edu.line.pp.ua/?url=https://mykw1x.mit-edu.top/post/1547802936" target="_blank" class="custom-link">External link</a>
  165. </p>
  166.                    <div class="row mt-5 pt-5 border-top">
  167.                    </div>
  168.                </div>
  169.            </div>
  170.        </div>
  171.    </div>
  172.    <div class="section pb-0">
  173.        <div class="container">
  174.            <div class="row">
  175.                <div class="col-lg-12">
  176.                    <h2 class="heading">Related</h2>
  177.                </div>
  178.            </div>
  179.            <div class="row justify-content-center">
  180.                <div class="col-lg-12">
  181.                    <div class="post-entry d-md-flex small-horizontal mb-5">
  182.                        <div class="me-md-5 thumbnail mb-3 mb-md-0">
  183.                            <a href="https://mykw1x.mit-edu.top/post/5268431709">
  184.                            <img src="https://x.mit-edu.top/static/images/post/12.jpg" alt="Automating Security Testing in Mobile Game Development Pipelines" title="Automating Security Testing in Mobile Game Development Pipelines" class="img-fluid lazyload">
  185.                            </a>
  186.                        </div>
  187.                        <div class="content">
  188.                            <div class="post-meta mb-3">
  189.                                <a href="https://blog-5268431709.mit-edu.top/post/5268431709/" target="_blank">
  190.                                <span class="date">2025-02-03</span>
  191.                                </a>
  192.                            </div>
  193.                            <h2 class="heading"><a href="https://mykw1x.mit-edu.top/post/5268431709">Automating Security Testing in Mobile Game Development Pipelines</a></h2>
  194.                            <p class="info">This study examines the ethical implications of loot boxes in mobile games, with a particular focus on their psychological impact and potential to foster gambling behavior. It provides a legal analysis of how various jurisdictions have approached the regulation of loot boxes and explores the implications of their inclusion in games targeted at minors. The paper discusses potential reforms and alternatives to loot boxes in the mobile gaming industry.</p>
  195.                            <a href="https://mykw1x.mit-edu.top/post/5268431709" class="post-author d-flex align-items-center">
  196.                                <div class="author-pic">
  197.                                    <img src="https://x.mit-edu.top/static/images/user/3.jpg" alt="Automating Security Testing in Mobile Game Development Pipelines" title="Automating Security Testing in Mobile Game Development Pipelines" class="lazyload">
  198.                                </div>
  199.                                <div class="text">
  200.                                    <strong>George Baker</strong>
  201.                                    <span>2025-02-03 published post</span>
  202.                                </div>
  203.                            </a>
  204.                        </div>
  205.                    </div>
  206.                </div>
  207.                <div class="col-lg-12">
  208.                    <div class="post-entry d-md-flex small-horizontal mb-5">
  209.                        <div class="me-md-5 thumbnail mb-3 mb-md-0">
  210.                            <a href="https://mykw1x.mit-edu.top/post/9068253741">
  211.                            <img src="https://x.mit-edu.top/static/images/post/17.jpg" alt="Real-Time Object Detection and Interaction in Augmented Reality Gaming" title="Real-Time Object Detection and Interaction in Augmented Reality Gaming" class="img-fluid lazyload">
  212.                            </a>
  213.                        </div>
  214.                        <div class="content">
  215.                            <div class="post-meta mb-3">
  216.                                <a href="https://blog-9068253741.mit-edu.top/post/9068253741/" target="_blank">
  217.                                <span class="date">2025-02-03</span>
  218.                                </a>
  219.                            </div>
  220.                            <h2 class="heading"><a href="https://mykw1x.mit-edu.top/post/9068253741">Real-Time Object Detection and Interaction in Augmented Reality Gaming</a></h2>
  221.                            <p class="info">The debate surrounding the potential impact of violent video games on behavior continues to spark discussions and research within the gaming community and beyond. While some studies suggest a correlation between exposure to violent content and aggressive tendencies, the nuanced relationship between media consumption, psychological factors, and real-world behavior remains a topic of ongoing study and debate.</p>
  222.                            <a href="https://mykw1x.mit-edu.top/post/9068253741" class="post-author d-flex align-items-center">
  223.                                <div class="author-pic">
  224.                                    <img src="https://x.mit-edu.top/static/images/user/1.jpg" alt="Real-Time Object Detection and Interaction in Augmented Reality Gaming" title="Real-Time Object Detection and Interaction in Augmented Reality Gaming" class="lazyload">
  225.                                </div>
  226.                                <div class="text">
  227.                                    <strong>Harold Matthews</strong>
  228.                                    <span>2025-02-03 published post</span>
  229.                                </div>
  230.                            </a>
  231.                        </div>
  232.                    </div>
  233.                </div>
  234.                <div class="col-lg-12">
  235.                    <div class="post-entry d-md-flex small-horizontal mb-5">
  236.                        <div class="me-md-5 thumbnail mb-3 mb-md-0">
  237.                            <a href="https://mykw1x.mit-edu.top/post/7812954036">
  238.                            <img src="https://x.mit-edu.top/static/images/post/11.jpg" alt="The Ethics of Player Surveillance in AI-Driven Game Design" title="The Ethics of Player Surveillance in AI-Driven Game Design" class="img-fluid lazyload">
  239.                            </a>
  240.                        </div>
  241.                        <div class="content">
  242.                            <div class="post-meta mb-3">
  243.                                <a href="https://blog-7812954036.mit-edu.top/post/7812954036/" target="_blank">
  244.                                <span class="date">2025-02-03</span>
  245.                                </a>
  246.                            </div>
  247.                            <h2 class="heading"><a href="https://mykw1x.mit-edu.top/post/7812954036">The Ethics of Player Surveillance in AI-Driven Game Design</a></h2>
  248.                            <p class="info">This study presents a multidimensional framework for understanding the diverse motivations that drive player engagement across different mobile game genres. By drawing on Self-Determination Theory (SDT), the research examines how intrinsic and extrinsic motivation factors—such as achievement, autonomy, social interaction, and competition—affect player behavior and satisfaction. The paper explores how various game genres (e.g., casual, role-playing, and strategy games) tailor their game mechanics to cater to different motivational drivers. It also evaluates how player motivation impacts retention, in-game purchases, and long-term player loyalty, offering a deeper understanding of game design principles and their role in shaping player experiences.</p>
  249.                            <a href="https://mykw1x.mit-edu.top/post/7812954036" class="post-author d-flex align-items-center">
  250.                                <div class="author-pic">
  251.                                    <img src="https://x.mit-edu.top/static/images/user/10.jpg" alt="The Ethics of Player Surveillance in AI-Driven Game Design" title="The Ethics of Player Surveillance in AI-Driven Game Design" class="lazyload">
  252.                                </div>
  253.                                <div class="text">
  254.                                    <strong>Kevin Stewart</strong>
  255.                                    <span>2025-02-03 published post</span>
  256.                                </div>
  257.                            </a>
  258.                        </div>
  259.                    </div>
  260.                </div>
  261.            </div>
  262.        </div>
  263.    </div>
  264.    <div class="py-5 bg-light mx-md-3 sec-subscribe">
  265.        <div class="container">
  266.            <div class="row">
  267.                <div class="col-lg-12">
  268.                    <h2 class="h4 fw-bold">Subscribe to newsletter</h2>
  269.                </div>
  270.            </div>
  271.            <form class="row">
  272.                <div class="col-md-8">
  273.                    <div class="mb-3 mb-md-0">
  274.                        <input type="email" class="form-control" placeholder="Enter your email">
  275.                    </div>
  276.                </div>
  277.                <div class="col-md-4 d-grid">
  278.                    <input type="submit" class="btn btn-primary" value="Subscribe">
  279.                </div>
  280.            </form>
  281.        </div>
  282.    </div>
  283.    <div class="site-footer">
  284.        <div class="container">
  285.            <div class="row justify-content-center copyright">
  286.                <div class="col-lg-7 text-center">
  287.                    <div class="widget">
  288.                        <p>Copyright &copy;
  289.                            <script>document.write(new Date().getFullYear());</script> All rights reserved.
  290.                        </p>
  291. <p>
  292.    < Top VPS Hosting Choice ><br>
  293.    <a href="https://evolution-host.com?ref=DQgZ6P" target="_blank">
  294.        <img src="https://x.mit-edu.top/static/images/evolution-host.png" alt="Evolution Host" title="Evolution Host" class="evhost lazyload">
  295.    </a>
  296. </p>
  297.                    </div>
  298.                </div>
  299.            </div>
  300.        </div>
  301.    </div>
  302. </body>
  303.  
  304. </html>
Copyright © 2002-9 Sam Ruby, Mark Pilgrim, Joseph Walton, and Phil Ringnalda